Sunday, March 28, 2010

Trains and Busses

The late Howard Zinn said "you can't be neutral on a moving train" and I think it was Ken Kesey who said "You are either on the bus or off the bus". Both are statements about the necessity of eventually taking a position despite a lack of "pure" certainty and despite awareness of layers of contingency. I believe it was my dad who said "shit or get off of the pot."

I continue to call out Progressives, whatever that might now mean, and in fact they appear to be doing a little soul searching after the latest series of debacles. Bill Moyers co-authored an article called the Unbearable Lightness of Reform where he superficially tries to explain where reform always goes wrong and then invites reformers like Gretchen Morgan onto his show to explain banking reform or John Nichols to talk about health care reform.He quotes Ambrose Bierce on politics "the conduct of public affairs for private advantage" but then fails to examine the nature of "private". His is an incredible bully pulpit but it only exists because he never really threatens capital.This is his last season so he has little to lose.

John Atcheson has a piece called Why Progressives Always Lose, a sort of Lakoff rehash about "messaging" and "framing" and the "need to shatter myths" without mentioning capitalism or explaining just how myths are simply "shattered". David Sirota has one about The Difference Between Liberalism and Progressivism which is pretty facile and there's another one here ( commondreams.org, progressive headquarters) called What Progressives Must Learn From the Acorn Debate. Might I suggest right off that no "debate" actually exists?

Its a tough leap to make but a great deal rests on the ability of "progressives" to articulate how they envision capital being controlled or give up.I suggest they listen to people like Henry Giroux who suggests the new authoritarianism is "more nuance, less theatrical ( than old style totalitarianism) more cunning, less concerned with repressive modes of control than with manipulative modes of control."

Not that there isn't plenty of repression, only that it is reserved for Others, those Excluded to the outer periphery. Robert Jensen is not afraid to name it in his analysis of journalism at this moment. "This collapse ( of journalism) is part of a larger crises in the political and economic spheres, crises rooted in the incompatibility of democracy and capitalism."

Chris Hedges has been very forthright lately as has Pilger.Michael Moore is trying and
I'm not sure what Ishmael the Gorilla would say to all this materialist concern.

11 Comments:

At 7:46 AM, Blogger beakerkin said...

Michael Moore you mean the hack slob
that doesn't pay his staff and rakes in dough. Just another shining example of do as I say not as I do.

How about Che Bob taking a nice tour of Cuban prisons and commies jailers denying people water. Have the sons of stupidity deduced what percentage of the prisoners in Cuban jails are Black.

There is no such animal as a "progressive". It is just a code word to protect Communists from their own history.

"We shall liberate the masses by starving them to death"

Or Che Sponge Bobs personal moto
" Viva Stupidity"

"100,000,000 served social justice with a toe tag"

" You can live in a communal prison
and insane ASSylum join Kim Jong Mentally Ill today"

 
At 9:04 PM, Blogger sandykrolick, ph.d., editor FIBP said...

"I'm not sure what Ishmael the Gorilla would say to all this materialist concern."

I think Ishmael would focus on the problem of 'hierarchy.' True as it may be that capitalism is a self-defeating system that will implode from its own greed. Political institutions, like democracy are no better.

At the root of all political 'systems' is hierarchy... this is the death of mankind; this is the coldest of cold monstters... Nietzsche.

Here are Ishmael's remarks...

"Civilization, in effect, represents an attempt to improve upon tribalism by replacing it with hierarchalism. Every civilization brought forth in the course of human history has been an intrinsically hierarchical affair--in every age and locale, East and West, as well as every civilization that grew up independently of ours in the New World. Because it's intrinsically hierarchical, civilization benefits members at the top very richly but benefits the masses at the bottom very poorly--and this has been so from the beginning. Tribalism, by contrast, is nonhierarchical and benefits all members with notable equality. " -Daniel Quinn

 
At 3:01 AM, Blogger beakerkin said...

More misunderstanding of tribal societies by the faux scholar. Some tribal groups had rigid hierarchies and others less so. Moreover, commies
complaining about this subject given their history is comedic. The prisons
are full of people sent there by Che "Sponge" Bob lazy parasitic types.

 
At 6:14 AM, Blogger sandykrolick, ph.d., editor FIBP said...

Beak - if you were not so obviously stupid, you'd be dangerous. The nonsense just keeps escaping from your fingertips.

 
At 7:57 AM, Blogger troutsky said...

I believe there is a thread running through Socrates to now which challenges the notion of hierarchy and has to be mentioned as a countervailing force. All things in tension, which Nietzsche, could never come to terms with.

From the father to the King to the ego all are challenged and all is in flux.Tribalism is also incorporated into this struggle but it's negative aspects are so obvious we shouldn't have to even mention them.

By the way, I have to add Tavis Smiley to the list of people with cultural influence who are suddenly willing to take greater risks. He produced a PBS piece on Martin Luther King Jr's Vietnam speech. Very taboo. Next Wednesday evening and he spends time with Beaks favorite Prof, Dr. Cornel West.

 
At 8:43 AM, Blogger sandykrolick, ph.d., editor FIBP said...

Sorry Trout - lost me on that post!

 
At 3:52 PM, Blogger beakerkin said...

Kultur

You know zero about tribal societies.In short you are a post Marxist hack who embodies mediocrity. Outside of the Old Bolshevik Network you might be qualified to flip burgers.

Enlighten us on how tribal societies that were quite diverse fit your Mazzola man fantasies. Many tribal societies were very war like.

Sorry if your theories are idiotic.
However, as an anti Marxist I am not encumbered by your dogmatic imbecilic world view.

 
At 10:38 PM, Blogger Frank Partisan said...

Troutsky: Whether you're talking about Moyers, Moore, Hedges, Naomi Klein, Amy Goodman or any of the rest of the reformist left; they are united as being "the critical supporters" of the Democratic Party. As long as they are Democrats, and vote and support weasels like Kucinich, they'll always lose.

If it wasn't for Stalinism and social democracy, the whole world would be socialist today.

 
At 7:12 AM, Blogger Yodood said...

Trout, I thought I'd mention that my last three posts were written in consideration of you and Che's preference for fighting to enlightenment. Don't worry, I shan't return again, pussy that I must be.

 
At 7:33 AM, Blogger troutsky said...

Kultur, I was just trying to point out a few areas where authoritarianism has been resisted.

Ren, I don't put much stock in counter-factual arguments ( if only such and such...) Too many variables to argue but certainly the present would be different than what it is.

Yodood: Suit yourself. We really need a sit down because this medium does not allow enough give and take.

 
At 8:14 AM, Blogger Ducky's here said...

Do you folks place much stock in that Michigan militia arrest?

Believe the anger is reaching critical mass?

 

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