The Reforma
I am somewhat coincidentally reading a chapter about a period in history ( Mexico's) that is relevant to the last thread. Many serious interlocutors on this blog and elsewhere sense a convergence of forces that will lead to accelerated change. Reform. rupture, revolt, just as in the late 80s in the Soviet Union, or Latin America more recently no one gets to know and few can predict accurately.
Triumphs and Tragedy by Ramon Eduardo Ruiz describes the Reform struggles of the 1850's beginning with ideology : "For Mexican Liberals, the capitalist blueprints ( witnessing the Industrial Revolution of Europe and U.S.) had the bewitchery of patristic articles of faith.One of the most conspicuous features of this bunch of copycats was the way it mesmerized itself, 'like a rabbit practicing self-hypnosis in the absence of a stoat.' That left just one option: to echo the Western model, to copy it's institutions and,above everything,embrace it's values...." basically,competitive enterprise; buying cheaply,paying labor poorly and selling dearly.
This middle-class revolt against the Catholic Church and it's Conservative supporters replicated bourgeois movements in Europe and elsewhere with roots in Bourbon reforms and the independence struggle with Spain.But by the 1850's "Mexico stagnated and wallowed in despair. With a mixture of resignation and fatalism,Mexicans had come to believe that in politics there were onlycrooks and knaves.They spoke harshly of their neighbors, accepting as truth whatever malicious tale was said of them.No one trusted anyone..." Sound familiar?
So what might then be the "verdict of history" on Mexico and its process of development? What should we look to in order to judge whether it is retarded, advanced, humane, brutal? What "verdict" might we deliver on Gorbachevs attempts at pluralist democratization or Chinas evolution toward State capitalism and liberal reforms? What "verdict" will come down from on high as to the Wests headlong rush into post-industrial late capitalism?
It is of course an absurd question because history is a fluid, continuous process of unfolding and any judgement rendered today can be made ridiculous at any moment tomorrow. Nothing is settled. A "verdict" would suggest Mexicans were just destined to provide labor and raw materials to various Empires or that Chinese hierarchical authority combined with private investment and loyal subjects creates a miraculous political-economy or liberalizing a State bureaucratic autocracy into democratic socialism can never succeed because people ( Hungary, Poland, Czechoslovakia) will demand all their freedom at once.None of these were inevitable nor do we know how it will end.

19 Comments:
a lot of words to explain we don't know dick about what we say
When the US sneezes, Mexico gets pneumonia.
The author is handicapped by a Marxist prism. Mexico's problem was too much instability and this prevents foreign and domestic investment.
Don't know dick? That's what the dialectic is for.
Beaks analysis of the causes of the instability is breathtaking in its scope.
Canada is one of the most politically stable places on earth, yet the foreign investment we have had during the last 30 years has done little to help us. Most of it has gone to take over (and often cannibalize) existing Canadian companies and industries. Very little of the investment has gone into something new and useful. This is different from the situation in the 1960's when we had controls on foreign investment.
"what might then be the "verdict of history" on Mexico and its process of development?"
Since history is a sham contrived by diseased lunatics; it makes no difference what is written. Soviet, American, Japanese... it does not matter who is writing the history. It is a tale told by criminals to idiots.
"a convergence of forces that will lead to accelerated change. Reform. rupture, revolt, just as in the late 80s in the Soviet Union, or Latin America more recently no one gets to know and few can predict accurately."
All efforts at reform or revolution are bound to fail, because the disease they are fighting against -- insane egomaniacal domination of others... is a contagious disease, that infects those who wrest the power from the hands of those that formerly held it. It is in the nature of hierarchical political society.
The real question is how do we escape the predicament that every 'civilized' nation on the planet finds itself in today.
"History is a sham" only when written by Marxist hacks with an agenda.
Ducky
One can not discuss facts, logic and history with mindless fundamentalist death cultists and a anarchist. They are beholden to
a pseudo religion and are not capable of critical thought.
Beak, you are right that instability was an issue but investors will take risks.The Brits, Germans and others coveted the mineral resources but did not create wealth for the vast underclass.
I was trying to make the point Ducky that there is plenty to know and learn from history but I reject Beaks notion of verdicts. If , as Kultur insists, it is an insurmountable struggle of egos ( and there is plenty of evidence) then the task of revolt is to diffuse power, spread it as thin as possible. I need t be able to dream!
Larry, I'm so glad to have a Canadian commenting because Canada is center stage in some of the most important, critical even, environmental battles ahead. What do the people think of tar sands? Is there direct foreign investment in that deve3lopment? We Montanans are ready to do something to stop that horror.
Troutsky
Please read, Columbus and other Cannibalsby Jack D. Forbes
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_18?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=columbus+and+other+cannibals&x=0&y=0&sprefix=columbus+and+other
Troutsky
Foreign investment and property rights are the basis of job creation.Extraction jobs are preferable to a lack of jobs. Even in Vermont locals who have been there for generations are in favor of extraction jobs and hunting. It is the transplants who wish to create Union Square and the worst of Boston in VT that stifle growth.
You can come to NYC and see plenty
of businesses run by Haitian Americans. The reason they run them here is stability, property rates and lower corruption.
History has pronounced a verdict loudly and clearly.
Human capital is a countries best asset. It must be nurtured, protected and given room to flourish. Communism is great for the USA in that the best and the brightest flee here.
Sadly we can not make this exchange reciprocal. I would love to exchange Venezuelans who wish to leave for Ren and Che Bob.
The answer isn't revolution it is build and develop. Build and independent judiciary, develop a system of checks and balances and respect property rights.
Kultur
The study of history done by true scholars without fealty to Marx is
a valuable discipline. Sadly we have an abundance of political hacks abusing the discipline.
You can rail about Columbus. How much time have you spent on the crimes of Lenin, Trotsky and Pol Pot. The problem with your approach is perspective.
You too have an agenda it is Mazzola Eden. In the case Ren it is a factitious Utopia that he knows will never be. All the talk of Utopia is power for powers sake
and empty words. In your case it is Paradise never was. People are not more humane as we take them into an imagined Green Eden. People
are still people with the same weaknesses and temptations and a different set of problems.
A person like myself is under no illusions about Edens for they do
not exist. The sole best means of preserving humanity is individual
rights and checks and balances of power.
There is way too much noble savage
and too little grasp of the nature of man in your cook book.
A person like myself is under no illusions about Edens for they do
not exist. The sole best means of preserving humanity is individual
rights and checks and balances of power.
My friend Beak-
I am sorry, but you tend, like most civilized scholars, to project backwards our own worst traits, fears, problesm and psychoses.
You have no idea what the life issues and economics were of primitive hunter-gatherers.
Like many others trained in the curriculum of the West (the benefits of agriculture, industrialization, political hierarchy, urbanization, sedentarianism) you actually believe those descriptions of 18th and 19th century British anthropolgists who imagine our cave-manancestors as instinctual animals, bashing each other with clubs (like in the TV commercials), greedily gnawing bones, coupling promiscuously, and unable to communicate betond grunting.
Come on Beak... I thinkyou are smarter than that!!
You can come to NYC and see plenty
of businesses run by Haitian Americans. The reason they run them here is stability, property rates and lower corruption.
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Let's try to tie a couple things together, Beak.
Troutsky makes the valid point that resources are extracted from countries (including human labor) without creating a reasonable distribution of wealth.
That condition is going to exist between countries also. Naturally you will see migration from poorer countries. They run businesses here because the capital is here and we have mechanisms in place to protect that capital.
You seem to assume that population of poor nations have been empowered to implement the transfer of wealth.
Ducky -Good point; they come here because their own country has been raped by the white man(American), extracting resources, and giving nothing in return. It is their only hope of stayingalive... to come to the 'promised land' where corruption is legalized and presented with a smile on your face, so you never know who is fucking you and for how long. They come because the disease we carry with us, and pass along to them is highly contagious, and survival in this world becomes impossible without becoming diseased yourself.
And now Haiti is destroyed by quake.!
Yes, to paraphrase the late Mexican dictator, Diaz, "Poor Mexico, so far from God, so close to Wall St."
Myself kultur, I still have a pragmatic need not to abandon the possibility of some change in awareness. Although I do note that the posters here seem to have taken your advice to stay in northern climes.
Troutsky, A great many Canadians are horrified by the tar sands, as they are by the Canadian mining companies in Guatemala and Chile. I don't know if the majority are opposed, but it will be at least a very large minority. The ruling class is all for it, of course, and most Albertans - that most American of Canadian provinces - look upon it as a god-send. As for investments, I think foreign oil companies are involved, but most of the capital is Canadian.
The tar sands, vicious gold mining corps and the war in Afghanistan have tarnished the (hypocritical) image of Canada as being the "good guy" compared to the US Evil Empire.
Larry, I believe that Canadian Natural Resources LLC. which (please correct me if I am wrong) is behind the tar sands debacle is pretty much a home grown Canadian product, no?
Wrong Duncy
People come here from a variety of countries including Haiti, Pakistan, Cuba and create small businesses. The reason is property rights, stability and balanced power.
I do not know what Haitians you are
talking to if any. The dozens here do not run around blaming the white man. Even Haiti's ambassador does not say that crap. They have stated pretty much what I did.
Gambone
Hunter Gatherers are by no means the apex of Utopia. They like other groups of man were subject to the same weaknesses as tasks we
have.
In your case it was paradise never was.
You merely project an idealization
of the other in your rejection of the current. This idealization of the other has zero basis in fact.
Your claim of Eurocentrism is only valid when talking to people like Duncy & Ren who are beholden to long dead failed philosophers.
However you are correct in that hunter gathers were not savages.
Commies are savages.
Hunter Gatherers are by no means the apex of Utopia. They like other groups of man were subject to the same weaknesses as tasks we
have.
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Yeah Larry, put a propositional calculus on that beauty and stew over it.
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