South of the Border
Director Oliver Stone was on the Tavis Smiley show promoting his movie about the new leftist governments and the social movements behind them in Latin America. As Beak knows,Latin America is no longer under U.S control ( Colombia being our last outpost) and the word empire is used ( as in spit) openly, everywhere. With the neo-liberal project in such tatters, the IMF, WTO and World Bank exposed as the destructive tools they are and other covert capitalist NGO and State Dept. operations ( posing as democracy promoters) such as USAID, NED National Endowment for Democracy, International Republican Institute, Office of Transition Initiatives, Center for International Private Enterprise, etc totally exposed and discredited throughout the region, there is little Hillary Clinton can say or do that is taken seriously.The Arizona debate only intensifies the enmity.
Stone is just articulate, friendly and well informed enough to get away with quoting Noam Chomsky, keeping Tavis off balance and Public Television worried about its Exxon Mobile sponsorship. While I think there is a need for a critique from the Left of Chavez, Morales, Lula and Correa, Stone deserves kudos for threatening the hegemonic, conformist flow of information that keep people like Beak so ill informed and duped.
I hope Tavis can get Charlie Wrangle on next week to find out why it is power corrupts and so many black men are in prison while Obama diddles and hedges and hee haws his way through the first pathetic term. It appears this weeks Donald Rumsfeld Prize will go to Admiral Mullen who said of Wikileaks : "They now have blood on their hands". From a guy with thousands of gallons of blood in his hair, soaking his clothes, a guy drowning in blood. Up is the new down.
On the back page of the latest Shambala Sun magazine is an ad for "mindful investing" through the Abacus Fund. Sorry. "Progressive Buddhists" want their cake but they don't want to be attached to eating it. This wholesale confusion is why all religions are in such turmoil, they can't separate the product from the Peace. The One from the mONEy. Transubstantiation and the Eucharist from profit and value.
posted by troutsky @ 9:30 AM
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29 Comments:
Stone proves my point about the endemic antisemitism on the left. It is time that he should pack up and make his movies in Caracas.
The Beak is SMOKING !
Beak, do you have anything to say about the thesis of Stone's film rather than launching into your standard antisemitism strawman?
Or maybe you're an IMF fan despite their stellar record of reducing human services and leaving countries with high debt levels. South America seems to have followed Lula's lead and given them the digit. Any comment?
"The Chavez death cult ... " in 1,2,3.
Any comment on USAID and other "humanitarian" organizations? Now would we be spending all that money if they weren't serving the empire?
I can tell you didn't see the movie yet. You would have been all over Stone for his remark in the movie about believing in "benign capitalism" as the solution.
Most of the movie was about Chavez. The historical parts were covered better in The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.
The movie was made about the time of the in inauguration of Obama. All the leaders and Stone were in front of the TV. Chavez said he hopes he is like Roosevelt.
Stone's statement was antisemitic. He apologized unlike racist garbage Andrew Breibart. The Latin American right has more freedom to be racist, as shown in their daily attacks on Chavez and Morales calling them monkeys.
The film doesn't differentiate between Chavez, and leaders like Lula, who comes from a regional imperialist country.
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised is a better movie.
Stone's comments are typical of the far left. They are in line with his puppet master Chavez who is the most antisemitic political figure outside of the Middle East.
Stone is merely stating the true nature of the communist obsession.
The American people have ample reason to approach his employers. Hello studio X you have a communist antisemite on your staff
and he needs to go. He should be hounded out of the USA. Let him make his films with Hugo with zero distribution in the USA.
Beak: You stubbornly refuse to let the facts get in ther way of your rant.
1) He apologized.
2) He made clear in the movie he isn't a socialist.
The apology is too late. The apology is a tactic so that next time he like most commie he with play word games with Zionist.
The future for Commies in the USA is going to be a bit tougher. Hopefully the GOP starts to dismantle the Old Bolshevik Network in higher ed and funds contras.
Stone is a low life communist moron.
1) Worships Castro and Chavez
2) Is obsessed with Jews
3) Is fond of every crack pot conspiracy on the planet.
It is time for the employers of Stone to face the music. He gets tossed under the bus by the studio execs and spends his years sipping Kool Aide and smoking Crack with Chavez.
Beak, you're a big fan of the invisible hand. Can you instruct us on why companies are drowning in cash but not hiring?
See, if all the cash goes to the corporations and they just stuff themselves silly and squeeze out the middle class then the lack of spending is sure to create jobs, right?
Help out here.
Oh, I'm not a big fan of Oliver Stone but his films are profitable so you'll have to put up with him. Tough break.
Beak, are you advocating funding internal "contras".
Armed civilian militias or do you and your brownshirt buddies want to bring back COINTELPRO (did it ever leave?).
What's Rudy up to these days, campaigning for Abramoff's buddy J.D. Hayworth? Keep us posted.
Ducky
The American people are fed up with Commies. The days of benign neglect are over and you can expect the next administration to be more confrontational. As you are little more than an couch potato commie you probably would be tolerated. People who have accepted subsidized travel and are in the paid service of Chavez
can end up deported.
I am in favor of arming Venezuelans and American volunteers to rid the earth of Chavez and his foreign supporters.
He has been caught red handed arming, funding and directing FARC.
The Colombians should get US support arms and invade Ecuador should they intervene to save Chavez.
He should be hung with the same rope that was used to end the life of Commie/Socialist stooge Sadaam.
Ren will claim that the leader of the Arab Socialist party armed with Soviet weaponry supplemented by some French planes supplied by a Socialist party was an illusion.
Commie traitors should be encouraged to emigrate.
Well, Beak is in favor of revving up The School of the Americas and teaching those South Americans a lesson, except Colombia, we have troops there so they're cool.
My you would have made a good German.
Now, any thoughts on why the Fortune 500 is rolling in cash and won't hire? Maybe the cash is in the wrong place?
Beak: He should be hung with the same rope that was used to end the life of Commie/Socialist stooge Sadaam.
Ren will claim that the leader of the Arab Socialist party armed with Soviet weaponry supplemented by some French planes supplied by a Socialist party was an illusion.
The difference between us, is I can prove what I say.
Why did the US arm him for so long?
What does socialism in one country mean? How does it apply to Saddam? Why did the Iraqi Communist Party support the US invasion?
Shiites are essentially rural in Iraq. That means they will be Bonapartist in power. It's been true 100% of the time. Before long will be a Shiite Saddam.
There already is a civilian militia in Venezuela. It needs to be expanded.
He has been caught red handed arming, funding and directing FARC.
I wish that was true. They should give their arms to the union movement, the leaders of change in Colombia.
Venezuela is not going to war with Colombia. It's election season in both countries. If there was war, any capitalist who supports Colombia should be expropriated without compensation. The Fifth Column will have to be eliminated.
I can safely promise every US embassy in Latin America would burn if Colombia attacked Venezuela.
In the end of September the right will run candidates for parliament in Venezuela, while in Colombia opposition party members are killed. The right will even win some seats.
Ducky: The GOP cancelled a fundraiser, that had Andrew Breibart scheduled as the main speaker for the RNC.
I always thought the Sherrod Affair should be used to break Breibart. Her case is not strong, but she has a case, and will have access to resources to keep it in court forever.
Ducky
Stick to the Couch Potato Communism bit and remain stupid but legal. Unlike, those who have accepted subsidized travel and are in the service of Chavez you will be left alone when the mood shifts.
What we have here is a liar. Ren is neither talented at it nor intelligent. Chavez was caught red handed arming, funding and directing FARC and dealing drugs.
He has violated international law and the Colombians should be given weaponry and encouraged to remove Chavez from continued existence. How they choose to respond is their
call from simple assasination, military strikes, arming Contras or general invasion.
The US only becomes involved if Ecuador tries to save Chavez.
The aid to Contras becomes legal and private citizens are encouraged to donate funds and equipment. Any American who aids Chavez gets denaturalized.
Ren is repeating lies that are comedic. Saddam had T series tanks and MIG Jets with a few French Jets thrown in by fellow socialists. The presence of Soviet advisers in Saddam's Iraq is also a fact.
Civilian died and Ren lied for decades after yet another so called Socialist acted true to form
and butchered his people. As Saddam
was opposing the USA Commies like Sean Penn went to save Saddam. Ideally Penn should have been prosecuted and denaturalized and deported.
Where do you get your info on South America? Breibart. If what you say was true, Colombia would have invaded. They actually never will. Only the extreme left and right believe that.
If you can't differentiate French social democracy from Bolshevism, you are a retard.
Beak, what does Chavez need to be saved from, the general shift to the left in South America?
Now, I admit it hasn't been dramatic but let's face it, South America, excluding Colombia, doesn't take its foreign policy directives from us these days as Trout pointed out.
Are you mourning the falling away of empire? Seems a good thing for all involved, no?
Ducky
When Obama is gone Colombia strikes.
He is finnished the second Obama is tossed out of office.
Chavez is a narco terrorist criminal and has committed war crimes against the people of Colombia. He will be tried and hung for his crimes. Should Ecuador try and save Chavez
the USA should invade.
This is about war crimes committed
against a sovereign state. Chavez's paid foreign servants should share his fate.
Ren save your rhetoric and deception for someone who cares what you think. You knowingly repeat lies and party lines so that you have zero credibility.
You should not be seen in public without the adult supervision of Sonia who will bandy your lobotomized points. As for me if you emigrate to Caracas it will save space in GITMO. Spare the jihadists from being bored with your Trotskyite cultist ignorance.
Ren: You are correct I haven't seen the film and Stone only scratches the surface in his interviews. But this is America, even a scratch is heretical.
As for benign capitalism...
Trotsky: I see your point. I know you'd hate his benign capitalism remark.
Beak says Colombia would invade Venezuela if Obama was out of power. Typical of Beak, there is nothing to back that up. It's election time in Venezuela, and they just finished in Colombia.
Ren
As a spokesman for Chavez honesty ys not your forte. You are known for deception, ignorance and possibly treason depending upon if you are compensated for your efforts.
Obama is a Marxist clown with zero interest in ridding the world of a narco terrorist fellow Marxist. However, as the jobs slip away and
the economy heads South the American people are going to react.
In November he is heading to a crushing defeat that will make him weaker.
When he gets tossed out of office for a real President GOP or Hillary
jumps ship and he loses the primary
Chavez's days are numbered. A GOP administration tells Ecuador to sit it out and resupplies Colombia.
Any aid from Cuba by sea or air gets sunk.
Chavez is cornered like a rat and tried for his crimes in Columbia.
He is hung and his carcass is fed to dogs.
His archives will prove interesting as we will learn exactly who has been on the payroll
and has been a spy/ traitor. Agents
of Chavez have three choices death, Gitmo or denaturalization and deportation to North Korea. Let Commies criminals live under the madness they espouse for others
24/7 with no prospect of leaving.
Killing communists is too easy and they kill each other all the time.
Making commies live under the madness they advocate for others has proven quite amusing and lethal.
So what's he deal Beak. Jungle war in South America?
Do we wait till the Afghanistan fiasco is over or just charge in?
Are you sure you've thought this through?
Beak, why do far right wingers like yourself both oppose the extension of unemployment benefits while talking about stimulating small business. The benefits are one of the best immediate stimuli.
I'm waiting for an answer. Come on, help us gain some hope that the right is capable of thought.
Chavez and the new president of Colombia have announced talks.
That must make Beak sad.
Ducky
On the contrary it will come in handy later. Let them talk before invading and placing Chavez's head on a stick.
Chavez is trying to save his life as he will lose and knows it. His Army might turn on him or surrender ala Iraq in a real shooting war.
Arm the Colombians and Contras and
warn Ecuador to stay out lest the US Invade.
You have me confused with Mr. B. You assume because I oppose communism that I am a rightist.
While I think there is a need for a critique from the Left of Chavez, Morales, Lula and Correa,
I don't think there is any need for a critique of Morales, Lula or Correa, from the left or from the right.
As for Chavez, I don't expect any critique of him from the Left. Unless Hitchens is still considered to be on the left...
hello, how are you?? i like your article,, do you have update???
Troutsky: I would answer your question about the Bolivarian leaders, but I don't want to smarten rightists.
Ren
As a flunky and apologist for the crack addict commie buffoon you have zero wisdom to impart.
Beak: Take your meds. You suffer from delusions. You see wars that will not come.
I wish Chavez was a communist.
Ren
It is over. Obama is going down and the next President backs Colombia's invasion and decapitation of Chavez.
You are just lying again as yet another Comminist tyrant is going down.
CONTRA TIME !!!!!!!
Dave- there's a good critical look at the "Bolivarian Revolution" here that RAAN (Red Anarchist Action Network) put out several years ago. I found it interesting. Enjoy-
http://www.redanarchist.org/texts/indy/civilwarinvenezuela.html
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