Sunday, January 23, 2011

Local Follies

Our local Human Rights Alliance brought in a speaker for the annual MLK Day gathering. He talked about Tea Party ties to hate groups, militia groups, Koch brothers, John Birch etc and he showed some demographics, survey results, and other data in yet another liberal attempt to understand these wacky neighbors.His starting point was established at the beginning when he stressed "This is not a populist movement" over and over again.

It is important for liberals to avoid discussions and analysis which is in any way economic because it could lead to nasty questions about their beloved market system. (In fact the progressive who received the award that night spent almost five minutes of his speech pre-emptively defending democratic capitalism as imperfect but reformable)

Their job is made easier by actual haters, like whoever placed the bomb on the Spokane parade route, and the knuckleheads who now oversee our legislature here in Montana. Their latest victory was a bill to make it legal to hunt animals with a blunt object.I'm serious here.Now they want to use the Federal data base (which they hate) to find illegal aliens applying for drivers licenses. They also dominated local races such as our county commission and the City Council in Big Timber which is dismantling a city park because they see it as an ominous sign of the U.N "Agenda 21", which calls on governments to adopt national strategies for sustainable development.

Yes, actual racism and homophobia and xenophobia need to be confronted.Hate groups should be challenged. But the deeper analysis would see their rise associated with economic uncertainty and then ask what is wrong with this economic model? Why does "sustainable development" cut into our pocket book? Knuckleheads will take care of themselves as they find governing with no money forces them farther and farther down the rabbit hole. Our local commissioners can wear their guns now but will find this freedom doesn't stop the suffering and misery associated with social breakdown.

The REAL challenge is for these liberals to admit their failures,open themselves up to something new and try moving into that tension filled, uncertain space where you have to listen instead of talking all the time. If they listened to their neighbors they would hear their own suppressed fears expressed. This Isn't Working. Problems are Not Being Addressed. The Future is Bleak for Our Children. Why Are Leaders Always Corrupt? Do I really Want to Pay More Taxes to a War Machine?

"But Malcolm X got what was coming. He got what he asked for this time.
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal."
Phil Ochs

13 Comments:

At 3:01 PM, Blogger Ducky's here said...

the City Council in Big Timber which is dismantling a city park because they see it as an ominous sign of the U.N "Agenda 21", which calls on governments to adopt national strategies for sustainable development.

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Just tell them its a project in human capital develop. Use the word capital and all's well.

I need a drink.

 
At 6:42 PM, Blogger SecondComingOfBast said...

"Now they want to use the Federal data base (which they hate) to find illegal aliens applying for drivers licenses"

And this would be an appropriate use of federal law enforcement. Nothing contradictory in the least. Its the job of the federal government to guard our borders and protect us from foreign invaders, particularly those who come from a nation and a region whose citizens are not only breaking our laws in huge numbers just by their presence here, but in many cases engaging in open warfare. The federal government isn't doing nearly enough. Good luck trying to get our pussy government to do its job. Noooo, there's too many democrat votes to be had. Can't go around deporting large numbers of a reliable Democrat Party constituency, can we now? Who cares that they go around kidnapping, raping, robbing, burglarizing, and committing mass murder. After all, that proves that progressives have been right all along. There's no difference in people. People are people wherever you go. And a Democrat is a democrat is a democrat, whether they are black, brown, white, red, yellow, or, by god, polka dot.

I don't think you got the progressive memo from the last election Troutski. When you go around accusing the tea-party of racism and bigotry, etc., you just piss people off and make them that much more determined to vote Republican.

The sixties are gone forever man. Come into the modern era. That politically correct claptrap doesn't play well to thinking persons. Haven't you figured that out yet?

When pollsters ask republicans and independent voters who tell them they are voting against Obama in 2012 if they are going to vote against him because they are prejudiced against him because he is black, their answer is going to be "no I'm voting against him because I'm prejudices against him because he is a god damn democrat."

 
At 7:30 PM, Blogger beakerkin said...

Is Troutsky, the rabid antisemite, talking about bigotry? The exponent
of planned starvation, terrorism and wholesale crimes against humanity is casting a finger at the Tea Party.

This blog should be read as comedy.

Don't hate the class enemies you butcher with your power mad scams. It is better to butcher the unwashed masses and steal their property for the betterment of society without malice.

How about you live in the mad world of BS you advocate for others Comwad? If Hugo is so great pack your things and emigrate. Renouncing your citizenship is easy and painless. As a commie remaining here renders you a bull shit Bolshevik.

The Duck can remain as a freak show example of ignorance.

 
At 8:02 PM, Blogger Ducky's here said...

Back from giving pat downs at LaGuardia Beak?

 
At 9:12 AM, Blogger troutsky said...

Wow Pagan, again with the "mass murder" thing, I don't guess you got the memo about civil discourse! You might consider moving to Big Timber, you could be mayor in no time!
Beak could be Speaker of the House and all my wishes fulfilled.

 
At 10:50 AM, Blogger Ducky's here said...

trout, making book on the SOTU address?

Job creation is the reported theme. I say count the references to "trade agreements" and lower business taxes. The irony here is that he's the right wing dream and they still call him a socialist.

 
At 12:15 PM, Blogger SecondComingOfBast said...

Yeah Ducky, because as we all know, every right-winger was delighted at the appointment of Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court, them being the two extreme right-wing Randian Neocons that they are.

 
At 12:19 PM, Blogger SecondComingOfBast said...

Troutsky, I got the civil discourse memo that it seems we conservatives are the only ones who are supposed to adhere to, and I'm very thankful that I got it on virtual paper so I can have the virtual pleasure of virtually ripping it to virtual shreds as virtually often as I virtually wish.

 
At 5:05 PM, Blogger beakerkin said...

Troutsky

Yoy really still do not grasp that you are a pariah and have zero moral authority as a political criminal. I can sit and discuss things with most liberals and conservatives with zero problem.

You are an exponent of wholesale crimes against humanity and have zero moral authority. In fact your refusal to emigrate to live under the despotism you advocate for others makes you a hypocrite and a fraud.

 
At 4:32 AM, Blogger troutsky said...

Ducky:I think you are exactly right, S Korea and Colombia trade deals, having more stuff in China that says made in USA, not a peep on climate change,Afghanistan is long, hard slog but we are winning, the usual hopey changey stuff a radical left winger might say.

Republican response: We heard the American people, cut fat, reduce debt, cut taxes.

From both: Break out those checkbooks, the campaigns have begun.Campaigns and pot are now the primary economic drivers.

Pagan: The whole point of this piece was the liberals are misguided on lumping racists in with Patriots. As for civil discourse and return to sanity thing, that battle was lost long ago. I'm amazed Beak doesn't have his own radio show.

 
At 5:05 AM, Blogger SecondComingOfBast said...

Troutsky-

They're not misguided, its a political tactic, the same crap they've done to varying degrees since at least the Johnson era. It's called turning history on its head. Here you have a political party who's very existence came about in part as a means of defending the rights of slave-owners. A party which rebelled against the Union as a means of defending those rights. A party who as a matter of course continued to keep black people in bondage even after the passage of the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments, and continued doing so until well into the civil rights era. In other words, for approaching one hundred years.

Then, when Civil Rights legislation was finally passed-which could not have been done without Republican support-they became the "Me Too" party and promptly devised a welfare system with its own coterie of straw bosses which served primarily to keep the slaves penned up on their plantations, given subsistence level incomes, and made sure in other ways they kept on voting Democratic (since they couldn't legitimately force them to do so any longer, nor prevent them from voting Republican).

Then after all the poverty pimps, organized criminals, and straw boss politicians are in place, they bring us the penultimate insult to human intelligence, the first Lawn Jockey President of the US.

And if you even think of opposing their socialist, Stalinist Lite bullshit, you're a RAAAAAAAACIIIIST!

And then they have the unmitigated gall to demand more "civility". You have got to be fucking kidding me. Civility? I have a hard enough time agreeing these corrupt fuckheads have a right to be treated as human beings, let alone with civility. I'll give them civility, I'll allow them to give my ass a good long kiss.

 
At 11:15 AM, Blogger Ducky's here said...

Pagan, really don't go into the slave thing, it weakens every thing you say.

Go research the Dixiecrats, tell me where those guys went after the Civil Rights movement and then tell me the current Democratic Party resembles anything like the 50's variety.

Save the bit about linking the current Democratic Party for Beak.

What's the difference between D and R anyway, just a dog and pony show put on by corporate America.

 
At 1:56 AM, Blogger beakerkin said...

Wonderfully stated by the Duck whose head has been in his posterior for decades. As a commie you are off the political map and into the realm of mental illness so normal mainstream thought is above your limited IQ.

 

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