Wall Street : Symbol or Substance?
Like it or not, every act of insurrection comes down to it's demands. Whether it is a protest or a strike or an all out revolt, unless some objective can emerge from the group dynamic/consensus at some point,it will only have been an exercise.
The objective need not be realized immediately, but I think it is important that it be articulated and circulated. This is why theatre is so powerful, it inserts itself by insisting that all imagination isn't dead (Yet), that symbols and metaphors still contain a power beyond the pull of the dominant ideology and institutions.
So is #Occupy Wall Street more important as theatre with symbolic objectives or a protest with concrete demands? If we look back at the occupation of the Republic Window and Door factory in Chicago or the occupation of the State capitol in Wisconsin, we see this modern dilemma play out.In both instances radical(symbolic) objectives such as: Workers Should Own the Means of Production were reduced in favor of objective demands: Workers Deserve Their Back Pay. A small victory was declared when the demand was (easily) met and the momentum for structural change was dissipated. In Wisconsin the more radical demands such as : Not Our Austerity or Fire the Bosses were reduced to recall elections and support for the Democratic Party. Again the momentum for deep, imaginative restructuring was dissipated and channelled into a form the capitalist state could easily manage.
The General Assembly in Liberty Park is faced with this decision as the weather gets colder and the media moves on to the Next Big Thing. Their Demand, which will probably boil down to: Tax The Rich, will be duly negotiated and considered by The Powers That Be. (who have already decided to do that anyway in order to save capitalism from itself again). Those Powers will be thinking "or else what?" but they will mostly be discreet enough not to say it out loud, instead congratulating the " sometimes messy democratic process".
But if there was no "demand", but instead a symbolic, theatrical, agreed upon suggestion or proposal: End the Capitalist System, it would actually give Wall Street and every other street (Main Street, K Street, Madison Ave., Pennsylvania Ave. etc) something to worry about. The Occupiers could say: Screw Your Reforms and call the action off on their own terms, vowing to show up again unannounced and better organized at some later (warmer) date.By saying : Wall Street is just a symbol of a whole brutal system which we want dismantled, they lose none of the energy and leave everybody hanging, suspended in a tension which Power hates more than anything.

19 Comments:
every act of insurrection comes down to it's demands...
lol!
It come's down to the LEGITIMACY of their demands. And what underlies the legitimacy of the Occupy Wall Street movements demands...
This is why theatre is so powerful
Good "theatre" is hardly a LEGITIMATE demand... less so a WINNING one.
btw - Keep up the good work... it's working... really... people will LIKE you for doing this...
Good theatre. THAT is what the people in America are LONGING for... really.
Troutsky
You are forgetting there is a sizeable Paulist contingent. Funny, but your kind typically rails aboout Liberterians and visa versa. Seems that the alliance of anti semites takes precedence over normal associations.
It's hard to predict when a movement will reach critical mass. Myself, I don't think it's going to happen unless the power brokers get their man (Chris Christie) installed.
There are ways to keep a lid on things but the far right fringe is intent on taking the risk and grabbing even more.
Little by little. You take an ass rack like Rick Perry. Texass is in a drought situation that might not see relief for a couple years by many estimates. What does he do? Depletes the water table with natural gas fracking.
Beak, can you and the rest of the short bus crowd go two sentences without mentioning your freaking hobby horse?
It's happening in the Middle East.
It's happening in Europe.
Why not here? Maybe it will take a little longer because we aren't quite as fed up. Beak can still turn on his 60' plasma to watch Chaz Bono or the Micheal Jackson doctor's trial.
Train's still in the tunnel and we haven't seen Kapital's vaunted flexibility, yet.
Ducky
This is my City and you can get a bigger crowd at any place Derek Jeter shows up. One thousand Commies and Paulistinians is a bore.
If it gets out of hand expect Hard hat riots round two.
It's spreading Beak. Should have something going on in Beantown next week.
It's your city?
Yeah. along with several million others
Ducky
In any large City in the USA there are about 1% who are Commies or Anarchists. These people are pariahs and are laughing stocks.
Nobody cares what their thoughts are. They had much bigger rallies in NYC at the RNC convention and it amounted to nothing.
We have competent police in NYC and if these people get out of hand a hard hat riot will clear the deck.
Speedy: The point of this post is to lift the veil on the word "legitimate". It is determined by the people in those tall buildings and their pawns in government.
Beak: You're right, I hadn't considered that a Paulist contingent would be there but it makes a kind of sense.BTW, "my kind" is Libertarian Socialist.
Troutsky-
"Libertarian Socialist"? What is that, just another weasel word for communist? If it is, why don't you just call it like it is and make your case. Everybody knows, or should, that socialism is nothing but a transition stage to commies, so why don't you make that case instead of using weasel words?
The next thing you know you're going to be standing in solidarity with Renegade Eye calling the murder of the Czar's children a practical necessity.
You can only keep that shit hidden for so long. Sooner or later it will slip out. Then we'll be hearing "WAAAAHHHHH nobody understands me I'm going to shut down this blog"
Mwahahahahaaaaa
The point of this post is to lift the veil on the word "legitimate". It is determined by the people in those tall buildings and their pawns in government.
No, it's determined by how much those hearing of your suffering can empathize with your situation... and believe me when I say that a bunch of spoiled rich kids on unicycles and tweeting on their I-pads impeding traffic and hoaxing turnout are not someone that the mainstream public are going to 'empathize' with and thereafter "legitimize".
If Wall Street were filled with people who's houses had been foreclosed, there would be empathy. Since Wall Street is filled with a bunch of musical theatre majors from Yale, there is NO empathy, and NO legitimacy.
Come back with some people who have actually SUFFERED from Wall Street's excesses. The BONUS marchers of the 30's HAD a LEGITIMATE claim AND public empathy. Occupy Wall Street has neither.
In other words...
Take your theatre workshop to 42nd and Broadway. THERE, it would have some "legitimacy".
I strolled through the Occupiers today (see my post) and there were quite a few libertarian cranks there, but...hey, as the guys in The Mob liked to say, "It's a free country."
Theatre, yeah, but sometimes that's all we have. If it's not pouring out tomorrow, I'm making a sign and getting my walk-in part rehearsed.
(You can be sure I'll have a camera so I can publicize myself on my blog!)
Nothing but dirty hippies
If the ability to share power in the political system is necessary for freedom then we certainly aren't free, despite all Saint Ronnie Raygun's asinine bromides but bit by bit maybe people are coming to understand.
If these tactics are yielding success in Israel, why not here?
Psst Pagan
When Troutsky uses Libertarian it is a code word for smoking pot.
Ducky
The protesters are freaks and losers.Many support Obama and want him to merely move left.
So legitimacy is a "suffering" index Speedy? Then the people of Somalia have the greatest legitimacy and the least power. Funny how that works!
The thing about compassion and empathy is you don't actually have to be the one directly suffering to become an advocate.
Anyway, we'll be looking for you Lichanos and we are organizing here in the periphery.
Beak-
You missed the best part. Do you know who one of the ringleaders of this bullshit is? Van Jones, the guy Joe Biden suddenly can't remember ever knowing, even though they took at least one trip together.
At least Troutsky's playing it safe, he's organizing at "the periphery" which is where I'm quite positive he is most likely to run into Lichanos.
Maybe the Professor will take a more frontal assault, give him enough rope and he can swing from building to building. Hey Professor, watch out for that tear gas.
Hey Trout, I wonder if your gang of miscreants will be as successful acting like shit slinging chimps as the Tea Party was by just acting like civilized human beings with some intelligence making their case.
every act of insurrection comes down to it's demands...
The demands of the 'righteously' indignant...
The thing about compassion and empathy is you don't actually have to be the one directly suffering to become an advocate.
Right, you can just purchase a Credit Default Swap on those suffering and collect all the damages due them for yourself! Sweet! I love the transference of moral hazard games that the Left always plays. But isn't that how Wall Street got into that mess in the first place???
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