Pizza President
I'm totally down with Ducky on this one, Don't Be Insane, Vote For Cain! I had high hopes for Bachmann but this is a tough field. Lotta heavy weights. What must the racists be thinking? One in the White House and another one his way? Get the ammo! Anyway, Americans need and deserve a little free market enema, a lesson they won't soon forget.You see, the problem was, Bush was too intelligent. Joe the Plumber just couldn't relate to all the big words he used. Bush is in British Columbia today, actually, speaking to.. get this..an economic forum! I have no idea if Hank Paulson is there but if it was me, I'd sneak over and fish the Kispiox or Bulkley.
Instead I'm at Occupy Missoula which is, as someone pointed out in the last thread, starting to get cold. The courthouse lawn is also where the alcoholics and homeless and mentally ill hang out. These are not so much the Indignant Ones as the Disposable Ones and the media has no way of distinguishing so they are getting some interesting interviews. I did a tv and a radio spot myself and I probably sound just as incoherent but what the hell. I pointed out to the GA my tactical concerns with focusing too exclusively on Evil Corporations and it was agreed to re-visit the issue. Hate to nit-pick but language is important.Most participants are progressives getting their first taste of anti-capitalism and they need time to think. We got a little time.
"The paper’s central premise is something I’ve been hearing from Alpert for more than a year now: this time, it really is different. What he and his co-authors mean by that is that the bursting of the debt bubble three years ago was not just a severe example of the ups and downs that are an inevitable part of American capitalism. Rather, it was the ultimate consequence of the modern global economy."
Joe Nocera NY Times describing an academic paper by a group of leading economists. What I liked was the word "inevitable". Lovely system that, where the periodic crushing of lives and dreams in inevitable. Which brings me to the "Free Trade" deals just passed by the capitalist state. In Columbia, the murder is constant and ongoing, not periodic. How cynical do you have to be to even use the term Free?
But as I wrote a year or two ago, they are playing us too close.
"This is about to get ugly and there is very little anyone can do about it." Kevin Giddis exec.managing director for fixed income capital at Morgan Kegg & Co. Read that either way.
posted by troutsky @ 8:57 AM
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36 Comments:
Troutsky
The actual homeless are more sane than commies. They merely have addictions and a few minor mental problems. Commies are pathological criminals who are societal pariahs and above all else are losers.
Thus a simple stay in a rehab and some meds can usually work wonders on homeless people. In your case you are advocating a sick and dangerous lifestyle that has been proven deadly in each application without a single benefit.
If anyone is disposable it is you commies who really should use the Jazz hand bit and channel Jim Jones.
Your comments about Cain serve only
to boost his support. Commies can not handle Blacks, Hispanics, Gays and so forth who don't buy into the victimization plantation. Sorry, but as Cain said I want my own Cadilac rather than to take someone else's property.
You are lifes losers, deal with it.
He's the next Hoover, trout, "A pizza in every pot"
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Good news, trout. Beak went down to the park and gave the demonstrators what for. He claims he really ripped them a new one.
He demoralized them to the extent that they stared down Bloomberg and forced him to cancel the "clean up". Not only does the occupation clean up committee have the disposal well under control but several city councilors are demanding that resources be used in their neighborhoods to bring the cleanliness up to Zucotti standards.
Way to go, Beak.
Now Canada is getting ready to mobilize. It would be nice to see Australia jump in.
trout, did you see the news article that The Pizza Man, our next president, got his tax plan from Sim City 3. Google it, you can probably use a chuckle.
Perry's wife (R - Don't Mess with Texass) is all upset about Obama's regulations causing her family unemployment problems. Her nephew had to quit his job with Deutschebank under FCC rules so that he could work on Big Hair's campaign. THE HUMANITY !
That Nocera article was sobering, trout.
The problem may be larger than even The Pizza Man can deal with.
I'm glad you guys are getting such a big laugh out of this shit. You might not think its so damn funny come November '12. What's the word on your brothers-in-arms in Fargo? Why did they throw that poor sap off the bridge? Was he not suitably radical? Somebody should have told them there weren't any Tea Partiers there they could blame it on.
I'm sorry Pagan, could you be more clear. Is this in reference to the occupation movement in Fargo, North Dakota or the blocking of Wells Fargo corporate headquarters.
Think The Pizza Man can handle the distance? He might have gone out too early.
The Occupy Fargo as in Fargo North Dakota. The actual name is Occupy Fargo and some other place. It happened on some bridge, apparently a bridge that connects Fargo with the other place. Of course you haven't heard about it because the fucking media is ignoring it.
Pagan: I did not like the way the media in general covered the Tea Party demos. They suck mostly. We can agree on that I think.
Now if some individual says something stupid or holds a stupid sign it goes viral on you-tube.
And you pick it up and run with it, Pagan, because you are part of the network.
I try hard on this blog not to play that game, use one to represent the many, because it is intellectually lazy. But if I have done so, I apologize.
Beak: If I boost Cain's support I am thrilled. I am serious about wanting him to win. Serious as a heart attack.
Pizza's go in ovens, not pots, duckmeister. You can hide your pot in the oven... but if you do, you should spread it on top of your pizza, like oregano.
Troutsky
As a Cain man I am thrilled you Commies are shitting in your pants over the prospect of a real President. The days of whine ( pun intended) and Bolshevik faculty lounge rip offs are over.
Duncy your fellow Commies were shitting bricks that the NYPD were ready to deal with them. A turd of Lard named Nadler pressured the real estate company to back down.
Now Nadler will have to deal with
promoting anti semitic protesters in a district with a heavily Jewish population. It may be the end of the clowns career.
Your commie bretheren do not like being called nerds. In fact they cry like little bitches. I am waiting for hard hat riot round two a nice tar and feathering is called for.
It isn't looking good, trout. Herman's way behind in fundraising.
Plus, I think people are going to wise up to the 9-9-9 plan.
It may be that the one who really deals capitalism a death blow will be Perry, I think Romney, like Obama, will only extend the death throes.
Still, the one to bring it all to a head, if we can't have Bachmann, is The Pizza Man himself, someone with executive experience.
Troutsky, the problem is, when it comes to the OWS it isn't just one guy or a small handful out of the crowd, its the majority. Just look at one of these events, then look at a Tea Party event. How many Tea Party members have you heard of shitting on cop cars, burning SUVsm spreading fucking garbage all over the place and then refusing to allow city employees to clean up, which would be the fucking least they could do, seeing as how they seem to be incapable of cleaning after themselves. When the Tea Party protests, they are orderly, and clean and still make their points, enough to elect a large number of people to Congress. Your OWS bunch by contrast are rude, violent, loony, and a fucking public health hazard.
But hey, you know what? Maybe they do have one very important thing in common. They'll both elect more Republicans to Congress.
Pagan, you're a liar. The sanitation committee had garbage bagged and set in a central location. The park was in excellent condition.
Are you going to compare a month long occupation to a bunch of Baggers being bussed in to listen to Palin yap for twenty minutes? Get a clue.
I've seen that photo. Nothing to link it to the demonstration. It could have been a wino on Delancey Street. Again, get a clue.
Cain/Bachmann 2012 because capitalism deserves a quick coup-de-grace.
Oh so I'm a liar am I? Am I lying about them shitting on cop cars in Philly, and burning an SUV in Oregon? Am I lying about them refusing to comply with a request to clear the park in NY for clean-up by city employees? BULL FUCKING SHIT! These are fucking nasty-ass scumbags, and they need to be cleared out by violence if necessary.
Rubber bullets. They're made for a reason.
Ducky
The place reeks of shit. I smelled the stench at least six blocks away.
The place is a dump. Look at the site of Urban Infidel.
Commies are nerds with severe mental illness. Regular nerds have higher IQ
scores and are gainfully employed.
Well let's go one by one:
1. The cop car incident is in NYC not Philly. The photographer admits there is no proof that the individual was with the movement and not simply a derelict.
2. There is no active "Occupy" movement in Eugene (surprising) where the car torching took place. Police don't know why the car was torched.
3. Go to the site Beak suggests and you do see the trash stacked at a central location for pick up, just as I said. Nice job, "Officer" Strutter.
4. I haven't been able to find anything on the supposed icident in Fargo.
5. Your advocacy of violence against nonviolent demonstrators who are exercising their constitutional rights of assembly is not surprising. Maybe Beak will join you.
Are you going to compare a month long occupation
Yeah, a bunch of college students from NYU and the New School sleeping out in the Park instead of their dorm rooms is an "occupation." Get a grip, ducky. They'd be in the Park all day even if their were no OWS movement.
btw - great messaging!
Duncy
Once again you lie. The place reeks of garbage and feces. This was described by Urban Infidel and many others.
Do you want to pretend the chants threatening violence and Joooo bashing don't exist?
I am law abiding, but if you commies act on your threats all bets are off. The NYPD are more than capable of dealing with Commie agitators. NYPD should drop soap and turn on the water cannons.
Even the folks at Comic Con consider commies to be Nerds
No Ducky, you do not have the right to occupy bridges and streets or otherwise interfere with commerce. Nor do you have the right to picket private property. It wouldn't do for one of these scumbags to step in front of my car, because I would mow their asses down and not give it a second thought. How the hell am I supposed to know whether they're planning on dragging me out of my car and doing whatever. I don't take any chances with scum like this. And take my word for it, if they think they're going to do this shit during the election and block access to the polls, they'd better think again, because we won't take it lying down.
Pagan, let's try a different tack. Does the Occupy movement and the Tea Party have anything in common?
Answer, a definite yes.
Both have a rather vague message,agreed?
Both believe the financial system has become divorced from productive economic activity, no?
Why isn't it possible to have some sort of communication on that issue?
Do we have to stoop to Farmer's level and start talking about "the dirty hippies" or do we have to go totally batshite crazy like Officer Strutter and claim the movement is antisemitic?
Why not get together and admit we all recognize a serious problem?
The alternative is Herman Cain and he will finish tanking the system. Fine, if that's the way you want to go, like trout said, "serious as a heart attack".
Hey, trout, the "liberal media" had The Pizza Man on Meet the Press along with Bobby Jindal and Tim Pawlenty. Great stuff.
"I've looked at the writings of people like Amb. John Bolton," replied Cain. "I've looked at the writings of Dr. Henry Kissinger, someone I respect."
Youza, youza, youza. The latest Iranian "plot" would have him bombing in no time.
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Initially when asked about his plan for Afghanistan, Cain repeatedly said that he would reveal it only if he became president.
"The right approach is: The day I’m elected president, I will start on that plan such that the day I was sworn in, I will be able to implement the plan ..."
trout, this guy is the complete package. He has a secret plan to end the war.
Duncy
The media was up in arms for alleging that the Tea Party Chanted the N Word. No tape of this exists
in an area filled with cameras.
Tapes of lefties spouting material directly from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion exist. These are Communists who will be slapped down when they turn violent. They claim that all the talk of revolution is hyperbole.
When it gets out of hand it will be ugly. The commies will be tarred and feathered.
Dirty hippies? When I have ever stooped to calling the OWS movement "dirty hippies"?
You must have picked up the notion from the actual OWS images.
Who says "subliminals" don't work.
Who says that art no longer imitates life.
Ducky, the Tea Party and the OWS are polar opposites. The Tea Party wants to get government out of the way of private enterprise and let the markets work with just a minimum of sensible regulations. The OWS wants to completely dismantle and destroy the current financial system. God only knows what they want to put in its place, it anything. Most of them don't really know what the shit they want, or what they're doing in all honesty.
There's nothing in common, there's not even a surface similarity. The OWS are acting like a bunch of ignorant barbarians. How in the hell does somebody shitting on cop cars, flying Soviet flags, carrying placards calling for socialism and an end to capitalism, and engaging in vile anti-Semitic rhetoric, while piling in the streets and blocking traffic and commerce, and spitting in the faces of female Coast Guard members, have anything at all in common with the Tea Party.
If you think that, in all honesty you're too far gone to reason with.
"Profits Before People, Capitalism Before Socialism, Liberty Before Tyranny, Life Before Death"
I support the 9-9-9
I fully support the Occupy movement but as trout realizes, let's get behind the man who will really bring us mass uprising.
Come on folks, 9-9-9, fits easily on a T-shirt. Forget the 99%, 9-9-9 is what the people need.
Ducky, do you realize that under 9-9-9, even though most people will be paying more taxes they'll still have more money, at least as much as they do now, at the very least?
Believe it or not, most businesses, including most big corporation, pay substantially more in taxes than nine percent, and that's even after the loopholes and subsidies kick in.
That has to have an affect on prices, no? You do know they pass the price of their taxes AND the regulatory burden on to the consumers. It's all part of the hidden cost of doing business, and every time you buy something, you too are paying it. Corporations do not and never have paid jack shit, and never will. The nine percent will be passed to the consumer as well, but that beats the hell out of being passed anything from fifteen to thirty five percent.
Wake up! There's a real world with real people somewhere beyond the horizon outside your socialist wet-dreams.
That has to have an affect on prices, no?
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No, I've explained this before.
Unless you have a monopoly pricing situation a company cannot raise prices without losing share.
No they can act as a cartel and rig prices but they can do that at any time regardless of tax. So if they can increase profits, the shareholders would be after them to do it regardless of tax.
I like anchovies and extra cheese on my 9-9-9 or broccoli and tomato. What's your favorite 9-9-9?
,,, remember Enron? Laissez-faire monopoly pricing sure worked out there. But I'm sure the fringe right will find a way to blame taxes.
The Pizza Man can deliver, but the duckmeister's friends only know how to order... and that's what frustrates them so.
Get with the program, duckman!
Pizza Power!
That's blatant nonsense Ducky. As it is, most big corporations only make a few cents on the dollar as it is. Even the so-called evil oil companies only maybe about nine cents per gallon of gas. If they didn't pass on the cost of tax and regulatory burden on to the consumer, most of them wouldn't even break even. Who do you know that goes into business to break even? The only thing that make oil so profitable is the sheer volume of the commodity in trade.
But the most important thing is how the price of manufactured goods affects everything down the line. Major manufacturers and producers pass the cost of their business down to the retail level, to the small business end. The small business person of course has to tack on even more to make their share of profits.
And even on the worst of days, they will still produce goods at a significantly better price, and bargain, than what any kind of government owned or "worker owned" (lol) operation can manage in their wildest dreams.
What you are seeing on the streets of New York and other major cities is the death throes of the left.
The end is coming, Ducky. It won't be pretty, but few will mourn.
By the way, the OWS is being supported now, officially, by the Neonazi group Stormfront, in addition to socialist activists and groups, organized labor unions, and the Iranian regime of Ahmadinajahd and the mullahs.
And, of course, Obama and the Democrats.
Quite a motley crew you got there.
Please, Pagan. Don't blame ducky for his ignorance. All he has been trained what to say is "Single Payer"...
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