Monday, October 17, 2011

Went To A Cider Party

Who remembers Ricky Nelson? Spent yesterday smashing apples into that sweet nectar (especially when mixed with vodka) with lots of old friends and new acquaintances. They would best be described collectively as progressives and many are actively involved in local Democratic "politics". Naturally most of the conversation centered on the Occupy movement and because I have been captured on TV, radio and video speaking out, I was asked my opinion of what it all means, portends, etc..

Many counter-culture types moved to this remote valley to escape modernity? civilization? over-crowding and alienation? (and I include myself) so some conversation is about impending doom, collapse, dystopia and sounds like naive hippie crap to me. Some is more nuanced (as is the latest thread on Kulturcritc's blog).Basically though, it reminds me of rightwing survivalist discourse. Growing gardens and making cider is a romanticized, privileged, nostalgic vision of what post-collapse life would look like.

On the other side were liberals who see no real crisis at all( just economic cycles), who feel slow and cautious is the way to go. One labor organizer told me "we will still be using gas in twenty years so the Tar Sands might be the best way to a sustainable energy future." ( he wants the Keystone pipeline jobs for his guys). Another wanted me to work in a coalition for incremental reforms. These are good folks, egalitarian, pluralist, humanists who still believe in the Third Way despite the overwhelming evidence of it's failure. Their utopian imagination has been crushed by the weight of pragmatic, bureaucratic, professional/managerial engineer-think.

All they got from me was nods and smiles as we turned the apple press and filled the jugs because I don't have to say a word. They have seen the news. The absurdity of their timid plea hangs in the air like a cloud of putrid gas. It is hard to realize you have turned into the old guard, that it is now you who is standing in the doorway and blocking the halls.

So-called conservatives, who have suddenly vanished from the discourse, are probably chuckling to themselves at the spectacle of Obama attacked from the left. But they are fools, so out of touch with reality and so vilified now that their mothers will soon act like they don't know them. The DOW is on a tear and it's a good time to get out. One lady in Chicago who had withdrawn her money was grabbed by undercover security and dragged BACK INTO the bank. Perfect metaphor for our time!

26 Comments:

At 12:07 PM, Blogger -FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

So-called conservatives, who have suddenly vanished from the discourse, are probably chuckling to themselves...

NOT to ourselves....

Apocalypse now!

Maj. Kurtz winks and says, "Bring it!"

 
At 12:47 PM, Blogger Ducky's here said...

Get Farmer a pepperoni with extra cheese and a side of:

9% VAT
9% Sales tax
9% Flat income tax

No tax on dividends and capital gains though.

Yum, make that two large pies.

 
At 2:14 PM, Blogger -FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Evidently it's NOT simple enough so that even a duck could understand it. ;)

I know... you're holding out for a Single Payer for everything in life. Can you say, "How can I serve you better, Master?"

 
At 3:28 PM, Blogger Ducky's here said...

Single payer is a way off. First the current insurance company give away has to be ruled unconstitutional.

That will leave single payer as the way to reform.

 
At 3:34 PM, Blogger Speedy G said...

Reform? A return to slavery constitutes a reform to liberalism? Now that's "progressive"! lol!

Plato, "Laws"

For of doctors are there not two kinds? The one gentle and the other rough, doctors who are freemen and learn themselves and teach their pupils scientifically, and doctor's assistants who get their knowledge empirically by attending on their masters? 'Of course there are.' And did you ever observe that the gentlemen doctors practise upon freemen, and that slave doctors confine themselves to slaves? The latter go about the country or wait for the slaves at the dispensaries. They hold no parley with their patients about their diseases or the remedies of them; they practise by the rule of thumb, and give their decrees in the most arbitrary manner. When they have doctored one patient they run off to another, whom they treat with equal assurance, their duty being to relieve the master of the care of his sick slaves.

 
At 4:17 PM, Blogger beakerkin said...

Troutsky

Grown adults have to work and have family to take care of.

There is but so much comedic relief in seeing communist imbeciles go off the deep end.

 
At 4:50 PM, Blogger Ducky's here said...

Leave it to our Beak. He's getting royally screwed and he wants to leave a freakin' tip.

Maybe Farmer wants to join you, Beak.

 
At 7:15 PM, Blogger beakerkin said...

Duncy

I like Cain, but any Black who doesn't live on your Marxist plantation gets under your skin. He'll do a better job than Obama.

 
At 8:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The new black, same as the ole', i'm afraid!

 
At 8:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

one day, beak, you will realize that the president and congress have virtually nothing to do with law, policy or regulation... the oligarchs have the control. New guard, same as the old; new beak, same as the old.

 
At 7:29 AM, Blogger troutsky said...

The ole is gonna raise a BILLION dollars this time, kultur, just watch. Elections and drone building are the only things keeping this economy going.

BTW, what makes Mormonism a "cult"? Crazy doctrine? Is it the people who believe in Jonah and the Whale accusing them?

 
At 9:23 AM, Blogger Joe Conservative said...

He's getting royally screwed and he wants to leave a freakin' tip.

It beat's getting robbed AND gang-raped by a bunch of stinkin' Marxist fleabaggers. ;)

 
At 12:09 PM, Blogger Ducky's here said...

Elections and drones? Get straight trout, what about Pizza?

We've got a special going only $9.99 for a large pie with an extra 2% sales tax for the working poor.

 
At 2:23 PM, Blogger Speedy G said...

It's NOT 9-9-9-2 ducky...

K.I.S.S.!

 
At 4:55 PM, Blogger beakerkin said...

Kultur

You are addressing a person trained in law. The system is what it is and I am okay with it. The basis for law in my country is the Constitution. I want black robed Marxist loon activist freak judges as far from the US Constitution as possible.

 
At 7:56 AM, Blogger Ducky's here said...

Anyone remember a film from back in the day, "Jonah Who Will Be 25 in the Year 2000".
Not a great film and long out of print and prohibitively expensive on the secondary market but it had a core that reminds me of the Occupy movement.

I went down to Occupy Boston last night and it just doesn't seem to be what Beak describes.
First I did go to the legal tent and kicked in a little to the bail fund.
Went to the food tent which is going well on donations and washed dishes for a while.
Took some of my old books to the library tent and exchanged them for a Barbara Ehrenreich book.
The homeless were in one tent giving a lecture on how to stay warm and dry as the cold weather moves in.
M.I.T. has a pedal powered generator that is supplying WIFI power and power to laptops and phones.

I'm sure Beak would recognize the antisemitic nature of the gathering due to the Sukkot tent which had a rabbi leading prayer earlier.

Yup, sure reminds you of a two hour Tea Party bus in to listen to Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin.

I wish more conservatives would join in. The idea here is to get people talking to each other, people contributing to something and being heard.

Is it going to bring down the Wall Street casino? Probably not, it will probably remain characterized by damn fools like Beak who'll believe anything he hears on rabies radio.
Pity, because people have come together and organized a large space where you can communicate. We can use this.

 
At 8:45 AM, Blogger Thersites said...

people have come together and organized a large space where you can communicate. We can use this.

They're called Public Libraries. Perhaps you've heard of them?

 
At 9:07 AM, Blogger SecondComingOfBast said...

Yeah, buddy, Ducky, that's just what I've always wanted, a place where I can meet and jawbone with Stormfront Nazis, socialists who fly the Soviet flag and admit they want to destroy the capitalist system (but in many can't bring themselves to admit they want to replace it with socialism), and who insist that everybody who is successful should kindly pay off their student loans. Or else.

The irony is, a person is probably safer at these events than any other place in any city that is holding them, as the cops and other emergency personnel are having to stretch their limited resources to babysit these asshats leaving productive members of society to fall prey to the criminal element.

On the other hand, hey, most of the criminal element is there getting a free bowl of beans, courtesy of Ducky, so they can't be spending a lot of time out engaging in rape, pillage, and plunder.

 
At 9:54 AM, Blogger Thersites said...

I think that the answer/solution to the OWS movement lies in sending every participant a Library card.

I guess they never knew before that there actually existed a public place where they could all meet and discuss their pea-brained ideas.... the Public library.

 
At 9:59 AM, Blogger Thersites said...

The brainless, heartless, cowardly OWS (Oz) characters have all mistakenly shown up in Gotham searching for the Wizard. Nobody told them that he'd already gone back to Kansas in a balloon...

"Follow the Yellow Brick Road to the Emerald City!" said the Munchkin Duncekins! And so they did.

 
At 10:03 AM, Blogger Thersites said...

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At 10:17 AM, Blogger Ducky's here said...

Interesting the the fringe right always gets more strident when they get shown up.

 
At 10:39 AM, Blogger Thersites said...

Yeah, we were shown up by fleabaggers from OWS...

lol!

 
At 6:09 AM, Blogger SecondComingOfBast said...

HaHahaHa "shown up"? Shown up by what, Ducky, a bunch of scumbag hipsters than can't even clean up after themselves? WTF

 
At 3:49 PM, Blogger beakerkin said...

Duncy

You want to bet that this is not a genuine Rabbi. Real Rabbi's do not mix with communists. It is what seperates those who are genuine from the Michael Lerner jokes. Michael Lerner is a Rabbi in the same manner that Snagglepus is a Lion. Snagglepuss claims he is a lion but doesn't act like one.

These are communist clowns who are stuck on Joooo hatred with a few fake jewish Marxist clowns in Capo mode. Ren screams that he is Jewish while stoking populist anti semitic material in the service of his true religion Marxism.

 
At 1:30 AM, Blogger beakerkin said...

One Marxist Tyrant down. Unfortunately, cancer will get Hugo before his countrymen.

 

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